Life Without Kubernetes

We continue our discussion of what would the environment look like without Kubernetes? We started with the idea of what if Kubernetes went away, what if there was a copyright or a trademark or an API issue that made us have to abandon Kubernetes altogether?

In this episode we played what if scenarios, exploring what made Kubernetes unique, and if parts of Kubernetes or parts of the architectural model could exist outside of Kubernetes? What would be necessary?

We identified enough parts of Kubernetes individually where we saw how it itself is an interesting convergence of some core technologies. Nothing new except in the combination of those architectural paradigms, designs and open source models. Through this, we dig into why Kubernetes is so powerful in the market.


Generative DevOps

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We dive into the question of whether or not generative AI can be used to productively change DevOps automation and the control of infrastructure.

We’ve discussed the closed loop side of using AI to manage infrastructure in the past, but this episode we really dive into the idea of creating automation and using generative AI.


AI Time To Decision

We talk about improving the time it takes to make decisions – called time to decision, a topic that we like to address quite a bit. We started with the news of the day around AI, ml Chaffee GP, and learning models.

We asked ourselves if AI/ML and generative AI could change the way expertise is used to make decisions and improve the time to the decision for experts. What type of implications would that have in the market?

If you’ve been tracking this subject, I know you will find this exciting and interesting.


Collaborative Platform Engineering

Today we look at what it takes to have much more collaborative building of automation, templates and shared components that are necessary to really drive platform engineering, and not just between teams at the same company.

We make components for infrastructure automation that bridges the industry because they can be shared much more broadly, similar to the way we share modules in coding languages. We dug into what it takes to make that type of environment work in automation, and what are the prerequisites of the environment?

How do we structure automation?


Open Source Future

How do we sustain open source? Today we discussed how the commercial models and sustaining models around open source are changing and evolving.

We also included some conversations about whether or not generative AI might actually change the economics around that part of open source. We hit on top projects, open source hardware, open source, operating systems platforms, a whole gambit, and how it fits together into a sustainable model for the users, companies, enterprises, and really everybody. We all use open source to one extent or another.

We have our book club coming up on data cartels, we’re going to be discussing it on May 4th and I hope you take the time to read and come join us.


AI And Platform Migration

A conversation about platform migration turned into an interesting topic about the end of expertise and the changing of the way we think about expertise in a variety of contexts.

How can platform improvement be radically transformed by the use of AI? We discuss entering a world where the lock that we’ve had in a platform, or the longevity of a platform, is radically transformed by the ability to review, scan, test, correct, and transport the data included in that system. The expertise needed to handle platform migration might be entering a new era in which it’s radically reduced. What are the implications of those transformations?

We address a wide range of the impacts of knowledge, AI, and generative machine learning.


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Ops After Kubernetes

How has Kubernetes changed our industry? Today’s discussion is part of a multi podcast conversation in which we’re going to think about ways in which Kubernetes could go away, or could influence other technologies in such a way to be transformative.

We went down the path of what we have learned from Kubernetes and how it influences other aspects of IT operations, architecture and design, and explored the impact that the expectation for declarative immutable operational constructs will play into other aspects of our system. We also discuss micro LS microkernels and how operations are staged to talk about the need for declarative OS, banking on this idea that what Kubernetes has built extends into other areas.

Chat GPT Summary:
“The conversation is part of a multi-podcast series focused on exploring ways in which Kubernetes could influence other technologies, as well as the potential consequences if it were to disappear.
During the discussion, the group delved into the lessons learned from Kubernetes and its impact on various aspects of IT operations, architecture, and design. One key takeaway was the importance of declarative immutable constructs in managing the complexities of modern IT systems. The group also explored the potential for microkernels to revolutionize system design and emphasized the need for declarative operating systems.
Overall, the discussion highlighted the transformative role that Kubernetes has played in shaping the IT industry and underscored the importance of adopting a declarative, immutable approach to managing complex IT systems.”


The Evolving SDLC

Emily Friedman’s DevOpsDays Ukraine presentation about rethinking the software development lifecycle or SDLC sparks our conversation today. She describes looking at it as a multi-dimensional cross functional discipline, that actually accounts for six different vectors of capabilities that need to be factored in – a resilient and robust look at the SDLC. Watch her YouTube:

We found that the model does not cover all of the things that we’ve been discussing as important things to consider in building, deploying, and making software resilient and reliable, most specifically software, build materials, or s bombs.


Decentralized Platform Engineering

What are the human and management factors that go into building great platform engineering? And what are the efforts of control having too much control or too much flexibility, not enough collaboration, not creating space for innovation, and changing inside what’s inside these platform engineering efforts?

Today, we discuss centralized versus decentralized platform engineering, or as came up in the conversation about platform engineering, it’s the opposite of Java Enterprise, version and platform.

As you’re doing this type of work interacting with platform teams should influence how you design and authorize the effort to make that work. What type of slack you need to put in the system and what type of authority needs to be given to the platform engineering team.